Change of emphasis shortcut

[Daniel]

On 2023-07-30 07:17, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 7/29/23 22:43, Daniel wrote:
>> On 2023-07-29 21:57, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>> On 7/29/23 13:51, Daniel wrote:
>>>> On 2023-07-29 18:21, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>>>> On 7/24/23 14:35, Daniel wrote:
>>>>>> On 2023-07-13 10:48, Daniel wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With LyX 2.4, the shortcut for toggling emphasis will be changed
>>>>>>> from Command+E to Command+Ctrl+E. I find that latter shortcut
>>>>>>> quite hard to use (there is a reason why Alt+Ctl+Delete are the
>>>>>>> "Security Keys") while emphasis is maybe my single most used
>>>>>>> function with a shortcut (after cut, copy, paste). So, this
>>>>>>> cumbersome shortcut is quite annoying to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of course I can easily change the shortcut myself via the
>>>>>>> settings and fix the problem for me. But I am wondering whether
>>>>>>> there is a better shortcut for this by default. The developers
>>>>>>> have not come up with ideas so far or do not see the problem as
>>>>>>> severe. So, I am wondering whether someone on the users list has
>>>>>>> an input on this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a background: In LyX 2.4, the Command+E shortcut is currently
>>>>>>> assigned to set the search string on macOS. (A feature of macOS
>>>>>>> that some applications support but I was unaware of previously
>>>>>>> and I know no one else who uses it. I guess that is generally
>>>>>>> true and why it took so long until someone came up with
>>>>>>> introducing it in LyX.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks like no one came up with a similarly good shortcut as the
>>>>>> old one. That might not be too surprising. Unfortunately, it will
>>>>>> leave macOS users in the dust with the next major version.
>>>>>
>>>>> I myself tend to set Ctrl-I for emphasis, which is what most
>>>>> applications use. Of course, they mean "Italic", not emphasis, but
>>>>> it's what I'm used to.
>>>>>
>>>>> Riki
>>>>
>>>> Interesting. And I like the idea of having cross-application
>>>> shortcuts. However, on macOS Cmd-I is "inset-toggle". Is it not used
>>>> for that on Linux by default?
>>>
>>> Yes, but I changed it locally long ago. I think the current
>>> assignment is mostly historical.
>>>
>>> Riki
>>
>> Would you mind sending me your user.bind file?
>
> Attached. I think some of these are probably out of date, actually.
>
> Riki

Thanks. Okay, I see that you just switched inset-toggle and font-emph.

Unfortunately, LyX 2.4 on macOS was changed to have a not well-known
(and documented) macOS specific "copy feature" on Cmd+E, so this would
not work either straight away... (I tried to argue against changing
Cmd+E on macOS but didn't succeed on my own.)

I never use the inset-toggle shortcut and maybe it is less commonly used
than emphasis? So, maybe at least on macOS, inset-toggle could be
changed to Cmd+Shift+E? Not ideal. But maybe better than the other way
around. And on other systems Cmd+E and Cmd+I could be switched in order
for people to be able to easily switch between systems. This is all a
mayor annoyance since people will be used to these shortcuts.

Daniel