Re: LyX 2.3.6.3 fatal problems on a Mac

[Stephan Witt]

Am 20.09.2022 um 16:04 schrieb Edwin Burmeister <eb at econ.duke.edu>:
> 
> Hi, Stephen—
> 
> Ich verstehen.

Hi Edwin,

:)

> 
> I always installed all upgrades to Mac OS. So my order was 12.4, 12.5, I believe 12.5.1, and finally 12.6.
> 
> LyX was not installed on any of these OS’s until I finally tried unsuccessfully to do so on 12.6.

That’s the point. I’ve installed it on 12.1 and upgraded to 12.3 and 12.6. 

After upgrade to 12.3 LyX started to trigger the request to install Python. See https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/12523. This happened because of Apples decision to remove Python 2.7 from the system on upgrade to 12.3 and provide an Python 3 stub instead.

There was no problem to upgrade to 12.6 afterwards. But this I didn’t know until trying it.

> I do not know if some versions of Python was installed on any of these OS’s.

I’ll try that next to see what’s the situation on these OS’s is.

> But again the bottom line is that a fresh install of Python3 on OS 12.6 completely solved my LyX problems.
> 
> Hope this additional info helps.

Yes, thank you.

BR,
Stephan

> 
> Ed
> 
> ***********************
> Edwin Burmeister
> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
> Duke University
> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
> University of Virginia
> eb at econ.duke.edu
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 9:48 AM, Stephan Witt <st.witt at gmx.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 20.09.2022 um 14:53 schrieb Edwin Burmeister <eb at econ.duke.edu>:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Stephan--
>>> 
>>> There is some misunderstanding here.
>> 
>> Probably.
>> 
>>> What I wrote was:
>>> 
>>> “I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro running OS 12.6.”
>>> 
>>> Have not been using OS 12.4 for quite awhile.
>> 
>> My question was: did you upgrade the system (with OS 12.4 + LyX + Python) to 12.6 or did you install LyX on a new system with 12.6?
>> 
>>> There was “a critical OS 12.5 upgrade” [or maybe it was OS 12..5.1] in between that I also had installed.
>>> 
>>> In any event, my problems with LyX 2.3.6.2 have all gone away since I installed Python3.
>> 
>> I’d guess you installed LyX w/o Python on a new system.
>> 
>>> Hope this info is helpful to you.
>> 
>> My question is important to know how to help other users or to improve the LyX install process and to avoid your problems - if possible.
>> 
>> BR,
>> Stephan
>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Ed
>>> 
>>> ***********************
>>> Edwin Burmeister
>>> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> Duke University
>>> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>> University of Virginia
>>> eb at econ.duke.edu
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 20, 2022, at 1:46 AM, Stephan Witt <st.witt at gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Am 19.09.2022 um 23:15 schrieb Edwin Burmeister <eb at econ.duke.edu>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi—
>>>>> 
>>>>> I do not know how to use LyX “bug reporting” and hope you can help me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have been unsuccessful in getting LyX 2.3.6.2 to work on my MacBookPro running OS 12.6.
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Edwin,
>>>> 
>>>> that’s bad, sorry to hear that.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember you’ve made a trac ticket in LyX bug tracker. There you’ve mentioned using LyX-2.3.6.2 on Monterey 12.4.
>>>> 
>>>> Does it mean you’ve upgraded your OS from 12.4 to 12.6? Or is it a new system?
>>>> 
>>>> JMarc is right (see the other answer), there is a possible problem with Python on Mac since OS 12.3… but it might be not your problem if you’ve installed it yet.
>>>> 
>>>>> I downloaded your DMG file many time thinking that perhaps there was a transmission error. But nothing works. Even tried a mirror.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is a partial list of problem that I have encountered:
>>>>> 
>>>>> (1) When opening LyX, the word LyX appears briefly on the Menu Bar and then disappears completely. The main LyX window never opens.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (2) Sometimes I get a message about needing to Reconfigure LyX. When I try to do so, I get a message that it failed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (3) Sometimes I get a message that the cite engine is missing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (4) The file LyX-2.3 located in /Library/Application Support/ contains ONLY an empty cache file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> (5) Once-- do not recall exactly what I was doing at the time-- I got a message that said something like, “You have encountered a bug in LyX.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have spent at least 4 or 5 hours trying various alternatives in hopes of getting LyX to work. None have been successful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Will you please let me know by Reply email what I should do now?
>>>> 
>>>> You may try to start the LyX binary inside a terminal window. E.g. type
>>>> 
>>>> /Applications/LyX.app/Contents/MacOS/lyx
>>>> 
>>>> and hit enter and wait for any error message and post it here.
>>>> 
>>>> BR, 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Your help would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
>>>>> ***********************
>>>>> Edwin Burmeister
>>>>> Research Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>>>> Duke University
>>>>> Commonwealth Professor of Economics Emeritus
>>>>> University of Virginia
>>>>> eb at econ.duke.edu
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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