Changes to LaTeX

John White john at
Sun Nov 1 20:32:57 UTC 2020

Thanks Doc,

Lyx is working just fine now, and for years last past, so I will follow your 
suggestion and leave well enough alone.  I am not a "cutting edge" guy.  I am 
more a "prehistoric sledgehammer" kind of guy. I don't even have a cell phone, 
preferring to use twinkle as a sip phone on my laptop.  

Keep safe.


On Sunday, November 1, 2020 11:05:51 AM PST Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> John,
> Debian uses a package manager (which implies stability and long intervals
> between updates) instead of the lates TeXLive.
> If you are bored, there is apparently a dummy package to
> install TeXLive instead of using the package manager, which however needs
> to be upgraded every year.
> For production use (as in your case) I would stay with the package manager.
> Mixing both together can cause difficult to trace issues.
> I like to bleed the edge, tip the spear, crack the ass so to say, so I
> upgrade early and often, even if it means running into the odd (usually
> temporary) issue.  I have this scripted.
> The coming LyX version will like all major upgrades make changes to the file
> format so older versions will be unable to read that, which would create an
> issue for one of my collaborators, though I can do a Zoom Sunday school.
> But if one waits a week or so, they will issue a version that can, which he
> will update by himself.
> The below shows me you didn’t run it with sudo, but then I would not mix
> tlmgr with apt.
> greetings, el
>> Sent from Dr Lisse’s iPad Mini 5
> On 1 Nov 2020, 18:37 +0200, John White <john at>, wrote:
> > ??
> > 
> > On Sunday, November 1, 2020 6:22:45 AM PST Dr Eberhard W Lisse wrote:
> > > tlmgr update --self --all
> > 
> > johwhi at johwhi:~$ tlmgr update --self --all
> > (running on Debian, switching to user mode!)
> > Cannot determine type of tlpdb from /home/johwhi/texmf!
> > tlmgr: running in usermode, did you call `tlmgr init-usertree'?
> > johwhi at johwhi:~$
> > I am using Debian buster (10)
> > Suggestions?
> > John

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