no accents with dead keys
jorge hernando
jorgea.hernando at gmail.com
Wed Jul 15 13:38:50 UTC 2020
I can also confirm that the qt5 5.11 works well. My old setup, fedora 29
and lyx 2.3.3, where all the accents worked had qt5 5.11.
By the way, if I write in another application (not qt based) like nedit and
made copy and paste with the mouse I obtain the accents but not the
newlines, if I insert the file (Insert -> file -> plain text) I obtain the
new lines but not the accents (same behaviour if I import the text). Does
it exist a setting in lyx in order to have the best of both procedures?
Jorge
On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 4:03 AM Daniel CLEMENT <dclement1 at free.fr> wrote:
> Le lundi 13 juillet 2020 à 11:14 -0300, jorge hernando a écrit :
> > Thanks to all of you. I believe I can confirm that this is a qt bug.
> > Following Daniel's suggestion I installed featherpad (a qt
> > application) and it has the same lyx behaviour: the dead keys are
> > really dead. [...]
>
> Just FWIW, I tried something: I'm planning to update my oldstable
> Debian (9) to stable (10) these months and I wanted to check whether
> everything was OK.
>
> So I ran the newer distro from a live USB session and installed
> Featherpad (not LyX, because it would pull a whole TeX system).
>
> The dead keys were working well! (except the cedilla of course) All the
> libqt5... thingies had version 5.11.3. The regression in QT (if any)
> must have come later.
>
> I hope you can get back a working setup soon. BR, Daniel
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all of you
> >
> > Jorge
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 3:50 AM Daniel CLEMENT <dclement1 at laposte.net
> > > wrote:
> > > Hi Jorge, I have struggled a long time with dead keys, but only for
> > > the
> > > cedilla character. I posted several times about that; I can but
> > > offer
> > > to compare our setups
> > >
> > > Le dimanche 12 juillet 2020 à 17:02 -0300, jorge hernando a écrit :
> > > > Hallo
> > > > I have one PC with english keyboard (US international with dead
> > > > keys)
> > >
> > > same here (LyX 2.3.2 - Debian Stretch [yeah I know...])
> > >
> > > > [...] the accents work perfectly (e.g. á is " 'a ") when in a
> > > > terminal, opening nedit, ooffice, etc.
> > >
> > > But these are not "QT applications". Could you compare with another
> > > such app. (Filezilla? Scribus? Master PDF?...)
> > >
> > > > but in lyx not only it doesn't work, the dead key is really dead:
> > > if
> > > > I type ' in lyx it doesn't type anything [...]
> > >
> > > Can't you even get the apostrophe with ' + spacebar?
> > > >
> > > > [...] I looked at some .kmap files in
> > > > /usr/share/lyx/kbd, [...]
> > >
> > > I understand that these files are now deprecated, and overridden by
> > > the
> > > QT settings (can someone confirm that?)
> > >
> > > > [...] I looked at /usr/share/lyx/bind
> > >
> > > This is for shortcuts, but of course you want to type accented
> > > characters the same way in LyX as in other apps, don't you?
> > >
> > > So here, working PC with US Intl + dead keys:
> > > - my ~.lyx/kbd folder is empty;
> > > - in LyX under Tools -> Editing -> Keyboard/Mouse I have no
> > > "keyboard
> > > remap" specified.
> > >
> > > This generally allows me to get the accented characters (except the
> > > cedilla). What about first trying with a completely blank LyX setup
> > > (e.g. renaming your .lyx folder)?
> > >
> > > > [...] In the mailing list it is mentioned (in 2019) that there is
> > > a
> > > > workaround related with Qt: to include in .xsessionrc the line
> > > > export QT_IM_MODULE=xim
> > > > I created the file with that line but didn't work
> > >
> > > In case you came across a post of mine, I was referring to
> > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/518056
> > > (especially post #39) But it's about getting the cedilla, not _all_
> > > of
> > > the accented characters, but you might want to review this thread.
> > >
> > > However, the "export QT_IM_MODULE=xim" thing is not a solution by
> > > itself, but comes after tweaking some QT config files (mentioned in
> > > the
> > > thread above). Maybe something got broken there with a QT update?
> > > It
> > > always happens to me.
> > >
> > > But let's hope you won't have to dive into this for each and every
> > > accented character!
> > >
> > > Good luck - Daniel
> > >
> --
> Daniel CLEMENT
>
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