Don't hide menus

Jürgen Spitzmüller jspitzm at gmail.com
Fri Oct 13 15:24:12 UTC 2023


Am Freitag, dem 13.10.2023 um 17:08 +0200 schrieb Daniel:
> I agree that the menus of these apps are complex. But that might be
> in their nature.

Well, they are aware of it:
https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2016/01/22/way-down-in-the-libreoffice-menus/

> I guess the Ribbon was a (maybe controversial) attempt to 
> solve this problem. 

Yes, probably. With the result that you don't find things anymore at
all. And Ribbons even more infringe the policy you refer to. They hide
function from the user if they place it in (rather opaque) categories.

> But I think LyX with its hidden menus is actually
> worse to figure out. I am still discovering (otherwise) hidden menu 
> entries and I have been using LyX for quite some time now.

I keep on discovering menu entries in LO and Word although they have
been displayed all the time.

It might be different habits, but I search for menu entries when I need
them. And this is when they are usually enabled.

In context when they do not work at all they only distract attention.

If I want to learn about LyX's functionality, I consult the manuals.

> If it is really necessary to cut down on menu entries in the "Insert"
> menu when disabled entries get enabled: For example, create a
> separate "References" menu.

References is just a single submenu in the Insert menu. That won't
solve the problem. And, after all, if References are to be _inserted_,
I would expect them under Insert.

-- 
Jürgen


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