Purpose of outline's "Table of Contents"?

[Daniel]

On 22/02/2022 23:51, Joel Kulesza wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 12:30 PM Daniel <xracoonx at gmx.de 
> <mailto:xracoonx at gmx.de>> wrote:
> 
>     On 2022-02-22 14:02, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
>      > On Tue, 22 Feb 2022 at 13:40, Jürgen Spitzmüller <spitz at lyx.org
>     <mailto:spitz at lyx.org>
>      > <mailto:spitz at lyx.org <mailto:spitz at lyx.org>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Am Di., 22. Feb. 2022 um 13:00 Uhr schrieb Daniel
>     <xracoonx at gmx.de <mailto:xracoonx at gmx.de>
>      >     <mailto:xracoonx at gmx.de <mailto:xracoonx at gmx.de>>>:
>      >
>      >         I am wondering what the purpose of the "Table of
>     Contents" in the
>      >         Outliner is. Is it supposed to show those elements that
>     actually
>      >         appear
>      >         in the "Table of Contents"? Or all "Sectioning"/"Headings"
>      >         independently
>      >         of whether they actually appear in the TOC.
>      >
>      >         Currently, it seems to rather do the latter than the former
>      >         because it
>      >         also lists "starred" sectioning entries that don't go
>     into the TOC.
>      >
>      >
>      >     Yes. Also Frames in beamer and other structural elements. One
>      >     purpose is to easily move around parts of the document.
>      >
>      >         Maybe a renaming would be worthwhile in order to not
>     confuse the
>      >         two?
>      >
>      >
>      >     I figure the most common term is actually "outline". Or "document
>      >     structure".
>      >
>      >
>      > The Outline pane does more than just the sections of the
>     document, it
>      > would be really weird to rename the ToC "Outline". "Document
>     structure"
>      > seems better.
>      > (By the way, Google Docs has a "Outline" pane and Word a
>     "Navigation"
>      > one, for the same purpose.)
> 
>     I noticed that when one clicks on a "Table of Contents" command inset,
>     the Outline with the "Table of Contents" opens. So, I guess that
>     connection is not ideal either currently because not only TOC entries
>     are shown.
> 
> 
> A few remarks from someone who uses the outline pane heavily to contend 
> with a particularly large and complicated document: please note that 
> many approaches to using the Outline pane exist.  I use the "TOC" 
> entries; however, I heavily use the figure, table, citations, 
> cross-reference, marginal notes, and equation drop-down-based views 
> also.  Accordingly, I recommend not getting too fixated on the 
> terminology in one of many cases.

So, do you mean that the other entries in the outline have also 
terminological or other problems? If it is other problems, then I just 
want to point out that terminology problems are (at least in principle) 
very easy to fix and hence might be worthwhile.

Daniel