Marking inverted branch insets
Yuriy Skalko
yuriy.skalko at gmail.com
Thu Oct 21 10:10:10 UTC 2021
On 20.10.2021 17:20, Thibaut Cuvelier wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 2021 at 16:07, Yuriy Skalko <yuriy.skalko at gmail.com
> <mailto:yuriy.skalko at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> >> Really I'm also thinking about more flexible system -- to
> connect branch
> >> insets to branches using logical expressions. So the branch
> inset could have
> >> logical combination of existing branches, not just branch name
> with optional
> >> inversion. For example now it is impossible to have a part of
> the document
> >> that will be outputted when any of 2 branches is active. But
> with logical
> >> expressions we will have inset "FirstBranch or SecondBranch"
> that solves
> >> this task. More complex combinations also will be possible.
> >
> > I like this idea a lot. I would also be interested in a dependency
> > structure of branches (i.e., not variable by insets) along the
> lines of
> > "branch Q depends on branch C and branch D so to activate branch Q,
> > branches C and D must also be activated". I think we should think
> hard
> > about exactly what features we want and the interface. Ideally we
> would
> > extend the current functionality without making the interface
> much more
> > complex for most users who I think do not use branches in the way you
> > and I have in mind.
> >
> > Best,
> > Scott
>
> Really logical AND operation on branches can be implemented now by
> nesting insets. Do you want to get separate Q to get simpler
> expressions/insets in other places in the document?
>
> Of course I agree that simple usage of branches should remain simple.
>
>
> FWIW, UI requirements for this kind of feature are not unique to LyX,
> XML authoring tools typically have to deal with conditional
> text/profiling. For instance, Oxygen XML and XMLmind have some UI for
> this (but it focuses on showing the attributes that are used to filter
> out some content, i.e. it shows the elements that the user can use to
> write their own logic to select the content to output):
> https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/24.0/ug-editor/topics/preferences-profiling-conditions.html
> <https://www.oxygenxml.com/doc/versions/24.0/ug-editor/topics/preferences-profiling-conditions.html>
> and https://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/_distrib/doc/profiling/index.html
> <https://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/_distrib/doc/profiling/index.html>
Thibaut,
Do you mean interface similar to Figure 2 here?
https://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor/_distrib/doc/profiling/the_solutions.html
I cannot find screenshots of Oxygen XML on their site. Is it similar?
Maybe simple solution will work: Now branch inset dialog allows choosing
branch and setting inversion. I propose to add radiobuttons: Basic and
Advanced and leave existing settings in Basic part. The Advanced part
will contain just edit field for logic expression on existing branch names.
Yuriy
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