Page Break vs New Page

[Paul A. Rubin]

On 1/24/21 1:50 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
> On 1/24/21 1:32 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
>> On 1/24/21 12:36 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>> Over on lyx-users, we got a question that uncovered the fact that these
>>> names are not very descriptive. (The user had used Page Break and gotten
>>> surprising results: a very stretched Table of Contents.) The line breaks
>>> have more descriptive names. Is there something else we could use for
>>> Page Break that would indicate what it does? Something like "Page Break
>>> (Stretch Page)" would work, but is kind of long....
>>>
>>> Riki
>>>
>>>
>> I'm no texpert, but I don't think page break (\newpage)
> The difference here is between \newpage, which is what New Page gives
> you, and \pagebreak, which is what Page Break gives you.
>
>
>> necessarily "stretches" the page in the sense of the problem raised on
>> the user list.
> Both our user guide, section 3.5.5, and this page:
>
> https://latexref.xyz/_005cnewpage.html
>
> say that \pagebreak stretches the page, though it does not always seem
> to do so.
>
> Riki
>
Gotcha. So \pagebreak /may/ stretch the page and \newpage will not 
(hopefully). If the menus in LyX included tool tips, this would be the 
time to use them. Cramming that info into the menu text strikes me as 
difficult to do. I don't know if tool tips have ever been discusses. To 
me, almost all of the menu entries are sufficiently self-explanatory, so 
I've never really missed tool tips. There are a few, though, that would 
benefit from them (and maybe a few more that would help new users but 
would be of no value to seasoned veterans).

Paul


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