New Windows Installers for Testing

[Enrico Forestieri]

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 09:40:58AM +0200, Yu Jin wrote:
> Am Mi., 10. Juni 2020 um 05:54 Uhr schrieb Richard Kimberly Heck <
> rikiheck at lyx.org>:
> > On 6/9/20 1:33 PM, Enrico Forestieri wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 07:15:22PM +0200, Yu Jin wrote:
> > >> Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 17:55 Uhr schrieb Enrico Forestieri <
> > forenr at lyx.org
> > >>> :
> > >>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 03:29:29PM +0200, Yu Jin wrote:
> > >>>> Am Di., 9. Juni 2020 um 14:21 Uhr schrieb Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <
> > >>>> lasgouttes at lyx.org>:
> > >>>>> OTOH, for texlive, running configure.py is just wasting time if I
> > >>>>> understand correctly. And since a lot of packages are checked in
> > >>>>> configure.py just for this, we are talking about a lot of time, here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> I see, but don't we then save this time when LyX is started for the
> > first
> > >>>> time? Otherwise configure.py would run there.
> > >>> I don't think so, because configure.py is run for the admin user at
> > >>> installation time. It will be run again when lyx is started by another
> > >>> user.
> > >>>
> > >> Agree for this case.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Then, there is also the issue that, before running configure.py, the
> > >>> installer subverts the MikTeX settings by allowing to always install
> > >>> packages on the fly, irrespective of the choice made through the
> > >>> MikTeX console.
> > >>>
> > >> Are you sure? I have neither experienced this nor found anything
> > related to
> > >> this in the NSIS code. Maybe this was the case with the bundle
> > installer?
> > > Yes, I am sure. I have always been scared by that and didn't use the
> > > installer for years. I tried it again when it was built by Riki, but
> > > it was still like that. After using the installer I spent almost an hour
> > > finding and uninstalling a lot of packages I never use.
> >
> Why is this not the case for me? I just tried LyX 2.2.0 standard installer
> and it did not install any packages. The only prompt I got was asking to
> *update* MiKTeX packages.

I don't know. Maybe you had already installed all needed packages.

> Actually MiKTeX console has a user mode and an admin mode, any changes to
> admin preferences will be also applied to user preferences, but if you then
> change user preferences, admin preferences will not be changed. As a user
> you can also choose to install missing packages to anyone using this
> computer. When trying to compile a latex document with missing packages,
> MiKTeX seems to always use the user preferences, no matter if the latex
> editor is run as user or as admin, same goes ofcourse to the installer. If
> an editor is run as a user and in MiKTeX's user preferences is chosen to
> install for everyone, MiKTeX will ask for admin privileges though when
> trying to install a missing package.

I have MiKTeX configured so that to never install any packages when run
as a normal user, but to always ask before installing packages when run
as admin. In this way, packages are always installed for everyone. When I
ran the installer it did not ask anything and simply installed everything.

Note that I am not complaining here. I only use the cygwin version, and I
would need the installer only for checking something very specific.
Otherwise I use cygwin to build a run in place a cross-compiled version,
because all needed software is already provided as mingw packages.
This is very much like cross-compiling lyx on linux, with the difference
that the cross-compiled version can also be run.

-- 
Enrico