Fullscreen vs. reading mode

[Stephan Witt]

Am 28.07.2020 um 12:15 schrieb Pavel Sanda <sanda at lyx.org>:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 10:21:26PM +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 05:33:07AM +0200, Daniel wrote:
>>>> I don't have Linux, so it might be that some WMs react very differently from
>>>> macOS. So, your WM has a dedicated fullscreen function to send any
>>>> application into fullscreen. However, it surprises me that your WM knows
>>>> what's best to hide when you go into fullscreen.
>>> 
>>> Of course it does not know. It just kill unnecesary WM visuals (like borders
>>> and titles). It's just poor man's version of lyx fullscreen (your "focus")
>>> and fails in similar way to what you see in Mac's WM fullscreen.
>> 
>> I see. On Mac's WM it's totally different in that applications normally stay
>> just the way as they are in windowed mode just the window fills the whole
>> screen (or half of the screen) without showing the menu bar, title bar and
>> dock. I know of no other application that behaves differently in fullscreen
>> mode. (There are a couple of apps that have modes in addition to the usual
>> fullscreen mode such as presentation mode for Powerpoint or Read Mode in
>> Adobe Reader.)
> 
> So it looks like mac's way just in the middle between maximize/fullscreen as
> people understand it in win/linux.
> 
>>>> So, my idea was to distinguish these two modes and be able
>>>> to use them independently. One configurable "focus mode" and one fullscreen
>>>> mode. The latter just sends the window into fullscreen and is what happens
>>>> when one uses the WM's dedicated fullscreen functionality.
>>> 
>>> To me, the proper way how to deal with this is to fix our code, that we
>>> correctly catch the signal from (not only Mac) WM to become fullscreen
>>> and do exactly what we do in the "focus" mode -- and not having two
>>> different modes. I do not know whether Qt gives us such signal to catch
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> If you strive for a second mode it should be fairly easy to get that as
>>> combination of command-sequence & ui-toggle keys and bind to your favourite
>>> key.
>> 
>> I think LyX is already catching that signal. For example, because when I use
>> the Mac WM's fullscreen button, LyX puts a checkmark on the Fullscreen menu.
>> 
>> However, since on Mac the expectation is that one can just work as usual
>> with apps in fullscreen/spitscreen, I'd suggest that, if no separation
>> between fullscreen and "focus" mode is implemented, to deactivate the hiding
>> of Ui elements in fullscreen mode by default.
> 
> I have no opinion about defaults in mac, maybe Stephan has. Maybe you both
> agree that proper mac way is to have standard mac fullscreen an focus mode
> and customize mac menu to that…

I tried it and agree it would be best to implement the switch to full-screen
via menu or shortcut in the same way as the switch with WM’s green dot (maximize).

Stephan